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Adobe abandoned the maintenance of Data Visualization Components

Posted At : Apr 21, 2010 12:52 AM | Views : 4152
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I believe this is true. JabbyPanda told me the status of AdvancedDataGrid in bug JIRA. You will see that Adobe abandoned the maintenance of Data Visualization Components.

Flex Data Visualization Components:Advanced Data Grid

Before, we need to pay money to use Data Visualization Components. And many enterprise companies have still used those components.

I think Flex 4 is not ready for large projects and I believe it contains a lot of experimental elements. So Flex3 will be used in large projects for two years at least.
(you know, a large project needs a long term)

At March 11 2010, Adobe made those components a part of open source Flex SDK. It sounds good. But actually it isn't. They just abandoned the maintenance of Data Visualization Components and just leaves them to Flex community.

How irresponsible it is!

Adobe should find the consignment company which maintains Data Visualization Components. Don't just leave them to Flex community.
Most Flex developers who have high skill will not contributes the code with free. They are fixing bugs of Flex by client money.
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Rob's Gravatar My understanding is that Adobe is working on new versions of things like the datagrid in the Spark architecture, which probably explains why they are not investing in the old versions. I agree that it is kind of a shame that there are so many bugs that that never got fixed. However, I honestly think that the old versions needed to be totally rewritten anyway and I would rather Adobe spend their time on the new version. Meanwhile, it is now open sourced so you are free to contribute if you can. As far as whether developers will want to contribute... I hope they do. That is the whole point of open sourced software
# Posted By Rob | 4/21/10 12:51 PM
Tom Gruszowski's Gravatar While I share a similar disappointment in lack of DMV3 component support, things are not as grim as it may see. Take a DIFF of ADG in Flex4 vs Flex3, they are significantly different, so they are definitely working on it now.

Rob, it's always great to rewrite but when? To add, have you looked at the source? It's so complicated you would need to work with it full-time for months to actually modify anything serious.

With all the flack Adobe has been getting I would think they would keep a few devs to maintain DMV for Flex 3. How can they expect us to just wait until Flex 5 or whatever comes out with new DMV component set. Flash 10 is not a minimum target for serious enterprise apps, FP9 remains the standard if you don't want to pizz your customers off.
# Posted By Tom Gruszowski | 4/21/10 2:08 PM
Rob's Gravatar Yes I have looked at the source and I have personally talked to some Adobe engineers about it. While they wouldn't come out and say it, my impression is that they realized that the code is overly complex and had serious flaws (This was my impression... they didn't actually SAY that). Part of the problem is that those components were designed to do everything you could ever want. Unfortunately most of the places where I used them only used a subset of their functionality. As a result I ended up rewriting my own simpler versions that met my needs. Surely they are not as robust but for my needs they are fine and perform better IMHO.
# Posted By Rob | 4/22/10 12:02 AM
Deepa Subramaniam's Gravatar Hi There -

We understood that many people use the advanced data visualization components and want to see them maintained in an on-going basis. To this effort, we try to fix some of the most critical bugs and use the voting mechanism in JIRA to determine which bugs are most critical. However, we are currently working on the Spark equivalents for the data visualization components. The big focus for the next release of Flex is around Spark DataGrid and Spark Tree. This is our chance to address the lessons learned from the prior versions of DataGrid and Tree and we are aiming to address many of the serious usability and performance problems that existed in those components in the past. We have chosen to focus on the new versions and welcome any help (via patches) to fix issues in the current set of advanced data visualization components, especially since the source code for those components are now officially open sourced and part of the open Flex SDK. Lastly, you may have noticed that we do make small continued improvements and bugfixes to the charting libraries on a regular basis. Hopefully, this clarifies some of the ordering of priorities by the Flex team.

Cheers,
Deepa Subramaniam
Flex SDK Product Manager
# Posted By Deepa Subramaniam | 4/22/10 3:11 PM
Tom Gruszowski's Gravatar Thank you for the inside scoop Deepa. Please understand the frustration that there are so many Flex devs that see little value in Flex 4 until it's fully done, and can wait however long it will take but we have real business apps in production now that simply can't wait another year or so until ADG in Flex 4 is released. Be honest about how many Flex 3 ADG bugs have been fixed in the last 12 months? I can probably count on 1 or 2 hands. All I'm pleading for is to fix a few per month until ADG in Flex 4 is out and all of us Flex enterprise application devs will shut up.
# Posted By Tom Gruszowski | 4/23/10 5:37 AM
Shigeru's Gravatar > Tom
Deepa didn't subscribe this topic. So your message didn't reach to him. I turned his "subscribe" on right now.
# Posted By Shigeru | 4/23/10 10:58 AM
Tom Gruszowski's Gravatar Deepa is a lady :)
# Posted By Tom Gruszowski | 4/23/10 11:10 AM
Deepa Subramaniam's Gravatar Hi Tom - If you can cherry pick your top 3 bugs currently open in JIRA against the AdvancedDataGrid, I could look into seeing whether or not we can knock them out during the next release. Please email me offlist (dsubrama at adobe dot com).

Thanks,
deepa
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